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Re: more response to And
- To: John Cowan <cowan@SNARK.THYRSUS.COM>,       Eric Raymond <eric@SNARK.THYRSUS.COM>,       Eric Tiedemann <est@SNARK.THYRSUS.COM>
 
- Subject: Re: more response to And
 
- From: Alan Beale <cbmvax!uunet!VM.SAS.COM!pucc.PRINCETON.EDU!SASACB>
 
- Reply-To: Alan Beale <cbmvax!uunet!VM.SAS.COM!pucc.PRINCETON.EDU!SASACB>
 
- Sender: Lojban list <cbmvax!uunet!CUVMA.BITNET!pucc.PRINCETON.EDU!LOJBAN>
 
(quoting lojbab):
> ...
> remember that Lojban "h", the apostrophe, is a devoiced vowel glide - it
> should never be velarized or even particularly fricative.  Calling the
> thing an "h" sound is to make it easier for English speaking
> non-linguists, who hear "h" (and are never satisfied by our explanation
> of why we use apostrophe instead of "h" for the sound)
And here I believed that the Lojban apostrophe really WAS an English h!
Perhaps understanding is impossible for an English-speaking non-linguist
like me, but can you explain what the difference is?  How can I produce
the intended sound rather than the "h" I hear (even if I'm unlikely
to go to the trouble)?
Thanks.
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                 Alan Beale               sasacb@vm.sas.com
"When asked what you do for a living, say you laugh for a living." -- Dylan