I don't have access to Nick's treatise, so I ask everyone: What is the jvajvo place structure of "nu zei klama"? Is it: x1=n1 x2=k1 x3=k2 x4=k3 x5=k4 x6=k5? That is, you add an x1 for the event & then shunt all the other places along by one. ---- And KO JBOBANPEHO