Re: TECH: fuzzy: <xoi> vs. <fihuhi>

[Logical Language Group <lojbab@ACCESS.DIGEX.NET>]

>My enthusiasm for <fihuhi> was engendered by my apparently mistaken
>impression that <fihuhi> did everything <xoi> did. Selmaho of the class MOI
>take numerical expressions and yield ordinals. Selmaho of the class XOI
>take numerical expressions and yield a NA.

The error is your first statement:  selma'o of MOI take a quantifier and
yield a PREDICATE, not necessarily an ordinal, and indeed not an ordinal
quantifier.

In the case of MOI, the quantifier is not a place of the predicate itself,
but part of the formation of the predicate, and I think And is noting that
you could come up with a nearly equivalent predicate that used the
quantifier (marked with "li" of course) as a sumti, and obtained the
same meaning.

The predicate so reusulting could be used in tanru, in sei/se'u phrases,
etc.  There is a predicate equivalent to negation/affirmation: jetnu/jitfa
so you can use a predicate with jetnu to get the equivalent of ja'a with a
subscript.  There are all manner of other areas, some unexplored, where
predicates can pop into unusual grammatical locations.

lojbab