Re: Summary so far on DJUNO

[And Rosta <a.rosta@UCLAN.AC.UK>]

Rob Zook:
> >Either way, this point is
> >a refinement of my more general point, which is that DJUNO means
> >"know" AND has a metaphysics place.
>
> I think we lose something here if we start using metaphysics and
> epistemology interchangibly. The gismu list calls the x4 place
> the epistemology. Pray, let us stick to that, things are confused
> enough as it is.

The point of calling it a metaphysics place is that we have
established in this discussion that "epistemology" is a confusing
label for the intended sumti meaning, and that "metaphysics" is
clearer.

> >We can then go on to discuss what *precisely* counts as knowledge,
> >but it ceases to be a Lojban-specific issue (except to the extent
> >that DJUNO involves knowledge).
>
> How about instead of seeking precision we seek agreement? The
> argument about what knowledge "is", or rather what one should call
> knowledge has been raging for centuries, and I rather doubt we'll
> solve it here.

This is pretty much my point.

--And