Re: knowledge and belief

[Logical Language Group <lojbab@ACCESS.DIGEX.NET>]

>How does that follow? "Words usable for epistemology typically have
>a du'u place" in no way implies "every word with a du'u place is
>usable for epistemology", nor in particular "krici is suitable for
>epistemology". But I'm not really against using it as an epistemology
>as long as it is also used as an epistemology in the x2 of {jetnu}.

It can be.

BUT, I think that jetnu will generally be regarded as claiming that something
is true by an epistemology such that the truth is generally recognized and
not confined to a single person.  Belief by one person does not generally
serve as a general epistemolgy for truth, though presumably that person alone
could claim jetnu for a truth he believ3ed in.  But I would not claim
something is jetnu based on YOUR belief that it is true, only on my own
belief.

>> By contrast,
>>as Steven just pointed out, the "footnotes" beyond column 160 in effect
>>say that epistemology places are generally filled with references to brivla
>>with du'u places of which krici is one.
>
>What is meant there by "generally"? Certainly not customarily, since
>customarily the place has been left unfilled. Indeed, it would be
>interesting
>to see if it has ever been filled in actual usage.

Since it is a prescription rather than a description, it indicates intent
rather than actual usage.  All correct usages have the place filled - it just
 may not have been expressed - that is the nature of the language.

>How does that follow? "Words usable for epistemology typically have
>a du'u place" in no way implies "every word with a du'u place is
>usable for epistemology"

While I am sure there are exceptions (indeed probably djuno itself is an
exception since it would be recursive to put djuno in  its own x4) I think
most places with du'u are indeed claims about truths or possible truths and
thus could be epistemologies.  Whetehr they are VALID ones remains to be
argued.

lojbab
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