Re: Lojban ML: Syllogism and sophism

[Logical Language Group <lojbab@ACCESS.DIGEX.NET>]

>Lionel:
>>Is it an 'acceptable' Lojban sophism to say:
>>  cirla zenba klani -> kevna zenba klani -> cirla jdika klani
>
>I would say yes. We can even remove "klani" to make it
>more aphoristic:
>
>        i cirla zenba ije'abo kevna zenba
>        "Cheese type of increasing results in hole type of increasing"
>
>        i kevna zenba ije'abo cirla jdika
>        "Hole type of increasing results in cheese type of decreasing"
>
>Of course the assumptions are different in each case. In the first
>case you have the cheese increasing by adding cheese-with-holes
>--More--
>to it. In the second the number of holes is increasing by removing
>cheese and creating the holes. Just like in French or in English.
>This is not so much a matter of logic but of understanding the
>process involved. Logic alone can never tell you the relationship
>between {cirla zenba} and {kevna zenba}.


On the other hand, if you are not looking for maximal aphorism, you can refer
on one as cirla joi kevna or even kevna cirla, and the other as cirla ni marji
(chesse mass) which decreases as the amount of hole increases.

lojbab