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TECH: (attention Ivan!) demonstrative predicate cmavo needed?



I'm wondering if we have a hole in the language.  I wanted to say something
easy to say in Russian but at best murky in Lojban.  English gets around
it with polysemous 'that' and 'thus' or just ellipsis.

The word I was looking for was a predicate demonstrative.  Adjectively in
English, it is "that kind of", adverbially: "thusly, that way".  Russian has a
 richer
use that I haven't exactly mastered yet, but the various words involved include
tak/takzhe (adverbs, I guess I would call them) and takoi (adjective, having
several other forms through declension).

There are other related words to/tot which seem to be the pronoun
demonstratives, though I think I have seen other uses for them.

"me ta" doesn't really do it.  Nora suggested "simsa be ta", which
covers many USES of such a demonstrative predicate, i.e. in tanru, but
in itself is not a predicate demonstrative.  I'm thinking we need a cmavo
that would work like "mo".

Is this need my imagination?  Or is it something essential to a predicate
language that has been missing because English is less predicate-y than
Russian.  (I wonder how Chinese handles such demonstrative effects?)

lojbab

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